Article written by Karthik S

  • Reuben Z

    Agreed. I too have used this tactic but only when targeting school children, age 10-18. Doesn’t seem right to ask a brand evangelist of a Skoda or Kingfisher Airlines to bug his friends to go and like a picture or comment etc. It feels like i’m forcefully asking someone to act as a brand mouth piece on a social platform at the risk of his/her reputation.

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  • Lamar Morgan

    I like this insightful article about clever marketing use of what some may consider SPAM. After all, what is considered SPAM likely varies with the individual. I think it all depends upon your relationship to the message. If you happen to be the sender, you may have a very different viewpoint than the receiver.

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    Lamar Morgan

  • Sku

    Isn’t it how marketing has worked over the years? I mean when you put your ad on to a TV network, how do you assume that every person watching the TV show is interested in your ad? You don’t. You just pick up certain characteristics of the audience ( demographics, region) and broadcast your ad to them.

    This is also how Radio advertising, Internet Display advertising, and Search advertising works. There is always a spillover. In fact, the spillover is always major. It’s always MORE than the number of people whom the ad will affect.

    I understand some might be irritated to find their profile ‘tagged’ in a random photo, but then I am irritated when an ad interrupts my favorite TV show, too.

    I don’t buy the point that profiles are ‘personal’ whereas TV networks are not. Your profile is out there in the open, for everyone to see. It’s as public as public can be. And you got it for free. On the other hand, I paid for my TV set and also for the cable. So when I can tolerate ads on my TV why can’t you on your social network profile?

    Not that I support spam, just that I feel that this post misses the point.

    • http://itwofs.com/beastoftraal/ Karthik Srinivasan

      TV, Radio, display and search advertising…all are examples of intrusion marketing – you pay and get the attention of a target segment. Social media is the first platform that allows for permission marketing – you seek permission through engagement to market your wares.

      Why? Simply because people have the power to talk back, which did not exist in the other forms of marketing you referred to.

      If an ad irritates you on TV, you have a few choices – switch it off or move to another channel. Same thing with other forms of media too. In social media, if something irritates you, you talk about it to others in your network – that affects the brands’ image. So, brands have a choice – to be that brand that intrudes with marketing when people are having social conversations on social platforms…or, it can choose to be that brand that first tries to engage people and contextually pushes it message.

      Now think about it – did the post miss the point? Or was it your comment that missed it?

      • Sku

        There is of course a lot of merit in coming up with a way to ‘engage’ people. If you can come up with marketing material that people actively ‘seek’, you have reached the marketing nirvana, I agree. However, this is not the case with majority of advertisements. A guy called David Ogilvy said that you will have, like 20 big ideas in your whole career. So, quite evident that the rest of the advertisements will be created around non-permission based marketing efforts.

        Yes, you CAN exercise permission based marketing wherever you can. In fact, I would say, prefer that to the other form, but let’s face it – it doesn’t always come naturally. You ‘might’ get a good idea, or you might not. What happens when you don’t – you still have to execute the project.

        Especially after you yourself admit of using such ‘tactic’. Yeah, yeah, I read about the ‘research’ that went into ‘your project’ as opposed to the Kingfisher’s effort. But then again, how do you assume that Kingfisher’s campaign didn’t come out of a similar ‘research’. You do realize that there are others around who are capable of doing research, don’t you ?

        One tip – avoid using the kind of language that you used in the last sentence of your last comment. Nothing personal here. We can stop the discussion if you can’t stand it.

        • http://itwofs.com/beastoftraal/ Karthik Srinivasan

          I’m sorry if the kind of language in that ‘last line’ was offensive to you. You had written “I feel that this post misses the point” in your last line and I wrote, “think about it…was it your comment that missed it?” – I don’t see a major difference between the two. What works for you could perhaps work for me too?

          I’m not questioning anybody’s research or the lack of it. All I’m saying is that we’re dealing with a medium that allows for 2 way communication. So, all that we’ve learnt about conventional marketing using predominantly broadcast tools go out of the window and we rewrite the rules all over again.

          You may argue again – haven’t we done permission marketing before social media? Yes, we may have. What has changed is that earlier permission marketing was done one-to-one. Now almost everything a brand says is one-to-many or, if you include co-creation by users, many-to-many. That changes everything.

          I believe your argument could be a lot more valid if you identify yourself – it is very unfair that I speak from what I am in real life and you defend spammy practices by being just sku@sku.com. Usually, I’m all for taking in valid points regardless of who it is from, but in your case, since you’re offended by a largely harmless sentence of mine that sounds exactly like one of yours and more so since you openly defend a brand that I wrote about…it only seems fair that we debate this as 2 individuals who are aware of each other’s identity.

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  • Sahil Dave

    A similar kind of campaign is being actively run by ‘Bausch and Lomb’ on facebook.
    The only difference I could find is that, they ask people who like their fan page to upload a pic of their’s (without tagging the horde) on the fan page and try to get as many likes and comments on their photo, from among their facebook connections.

    The person with the most comments wins!